Poverty will be abolished in America only when a mass movement demands it,” writes Princeton’s Matthew Desmond in his book Poverty, by America. On this episode of the Capitalisn’t podcast, hosts Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales discuss with Desmond his views on the complex and deeply entrenched root causes of poverty, poverty’s relationship with the American capitalist system, and how we could build on individual choices to end poverty.

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