In recent weeks, the Great Barrington Declaration reignited the debate about how best to continue the fight against COVID-19. On this episode of the Capitalisn’t podcast, hosts Luigi Zingales and Bethany McLean discuss the trade-offs of different strategies for the future, from lockdowns to herd immunity. In the process, they speak with two people with different perspectives: Sunetra Gupta, an epidemiologist from Oxford and one of the signers of the Great Barrington Declaration, and Andy Slavitt, former acting administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services under US president Barack Obama and the host of the In The Bubble podcast.

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