Management Conference ’99

What does it take to start a business? When is it appropriate to seek venture capital? Such questions were addressed at "The Inside Story on Venture Capital," one of thirteen educational panels presented at the Management Conference in June.

Nearly 170 conference attendees crowded into a Gleacher Center classroom to glean advice and insights from four GSB alumni–venture capitalists Kathryn C. Gould, ’78; Robert V. Adams, ’61; and Richard H. Kimball, ’83; and entrepreneur Robert C. Taylor Jr., ’90. The session was part of the entrepreneurship track of the conference, which also included a "back to the classroom" session with James E. Schrager, clinical professor of entrepreneurship and strategic management. The track was immensely popular, and according to Gould, with good reason.

"It's an amazing time for entrepreneurship in this country," she said. Funding for start-ups is available at unprecedented levels; $12 billion was invested by venture capitalists in 1998. How does an entrepreneur tap into this resource? Below is an edited version of the panelists' discussion. Some of the questions were initiated by Gould, who moderated the panel; others were asked by the audience.

Should you start a company? What are the most important personal characteristics of an entrepreneur?

How can you get an unfair advantage? How can you bring proprietary knowledge and skills to bear?

How should you finance your company?

What should you look for besides money from venture capitalists? And is there a valuation, a value-added trade-off?

Speaking of “vulture” capitalists, let’s talk about what you should look out for with venture capitalists. How do you check out venture capitalists? How do you make sure they’re not “vulture” capitalists?

Are there definite dos and don’ts when approaching venture capitalists?

When approaching venture capitalists, are references what really matters?


Resources

Should you start a company? What are the most important personal characteristics of an entrepreneur?
Taylor: When we started Focal, the old adage “necessity is the mother of invention” really played out. All four of us were in telecommunications and related fields. My original partner was vice president of marketing at MFS Communications, and I ran a business unit there. We kept hearing a need from customers that we couldn’t satisfy at MFS for various reasons. We eventually thought maybe we could fill this need. We were lucky enough to be at a company that had experienced incredible growth and equity appreciation, so when we stepped out to take the leap, we could afford to do it for one or two years.

The ability to leave a comfortable job to take a risk is something one in a thousand do. While we’ve hired a lot of people who say they wish they would have been with us earlier, the reality is they never would have been there earlier. You must have a certain belief–one that I think is unique among entrepreneurs–that whatever you’re going to do will work.

Gould: You exemplify a couple of the common points I see in start-ups. One, there’s usually a team of people. Two, having proprietary insight into a market is really important, because venture capitalists like to back people who have a lot of experience in their chosen markets.

Taylor: We also had four founders who were uniquely different. One came out of NationsBank, where he was a high-yield bond analyst for the telecommunications industry. He became the CFO and had an inside perspective on what venture capitalists might want to see from a business planning process. We also had somebody who was a VP of sales from another telecom company who could go out and attract a sales force. The other original player and I had both marketing sales and operational skills. The telephone business is so big and so complex that one person can’t do it all.

Adams: I started ten companies, and the first thing I looked at was if the top person or people were compelled to do it. We talk a lot about the glamour of entrepreneurship, but the uncertainty gnaws at you so hard that it has to be something you have to do. You can’t be driven by money, because the money will never be worth it. If you’ve got that passion, if your life isn’t going to be complete unless you do this, then do it. But if you don’t feel that way, I’m not sure I’d suggest it.

I also don’t think the top person needs to be the smartest person in the team, but he or she needs to be a visionary, because you don’t have money for the strategic planners that you’d find in a larger organization. The leader must have it in the gut, know what he wants to do and where he wants to go, or there’s going to be a lot of trouble managing that small team.

Having said that, I always looked for the absolutely smartest people
I could find for the CFO, marketing chief, and so forth. The whole gist of entrepreneurship is that there are no guideposts, no milestones, no history. Unless you are really smart and can move quickly, it’s going
to be too late.

People starting a company also have to be good team players because you can’t spend too much time pointing fingers when something goes wrong. You all have to jump on it and get it fixed.

Gould: Starting any company is really hard to do, so you can’t be so smart that it occurs to you that it can’t be done. A lot of people ultimately conclude that in fact it can’t be done, but it gets done anyway. It takes that passion to walk through walls. To be an entrepreneur takes a high tolerance for ambiguity and chaos. It doesn’t make sense a lot of times, but you just have to keep going.
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How can you get an unfair advantage? How can you bring proprietary knowledge and skills to bear?
Gould: A great way to start a company is with a customer, perhaps from your previous experience. Another thing that works very well is to have an expert advisory board.

Kimball: The way we look at the world, only one thing matters: Are there customers? Are there people willing to pay for that solution, product, or service? Do they have a sugar daddy customer? We think that gives someone an edge.

Taylor: Surround yourself with competitors, especially if they are monopolists. One couldn’t design better competitors than the large corporations Focal is up against. The competitive advantage for a small company is to make a decision quickly. As simple as that seems, it is a huge advantage in this marketplace.

Kimball: The reason venture capitalists are in business is that great things are done by small groups of people. Big companies throwing three hundred people at a software problem does not offer an advantage over throwing thirty people at it; in fact, it gives you a big disadvantage.

Adams: The biggest unfair advantage you can develop is being first, getting such a momentum going that even more nimble competitors have a hard time catching up with you.

An example is Documentum, which writes document management software. We could see applications for that software across a half-dozen different industries. We also had only about a half-dozen people. We felt that if we tried to spread ourselves across too wide an area, we would never get any momentum up and our competitors would catch up. We stumbled upon one particular application in pharmaceuticals and decided to focus on that. We found the first early adopters and drove into that market as far as we could until we had ninety or so customers before moving on to the next vertical market. That didn’t allow anyone to catch up with us.
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How should you finance your company?
Gould: These days there are a lot of alternatives. Certainly you can bootstrap it if you get access to the right customer or small set of customers first, or have the right uncle, I suppose. There are more and more angel investors, as well as venture capital.

Taylor: We thought about all of those. One of my partners and I had enough friends and family members and uncles that we could have raised enough money to get the business going. But we also knew we would ultimately need Wall Street­type investments. While you gain one aspect of control when you have a bunch of “dumb” investors through friends and families, you lose the institutional value that venture capital firms bring. This is important if you want to go to the next stage. If you want to start a doughnut shop, that’s all you ever want to do and it’s going to be one store, then friends and family are perfect. But if you think you’re going beyond that, you may need a venture capital firm. Even though it meant giving up a substantially larger piece of the business, we felt that the reward, the insight, and the reputation of those firms would be paid back to us in spades.

Gould: In situations where you need to move quickly, there’s no better way to get a fast start than through venture money. Interestingly enough, my start of Oracle was not venture backed. It was a painful bootstrap in the early ’80s, in part because at that point in time, software was something venture capitalists couldn’t really wrap their minds around as something to invest in. But as I look back, maybe it was best. Clearly it was best for the founders–we owned a lot of the company.

Another plus was that we were in a market where moving fast was not what it was about. We grew organically at the pace that the market could absorb the new technology. I wonder often if we had been successful in raising venture money–which we tried, for a couple years–if we would have been forced to move differently. A venture firm, I imagine, would have become quite impatient with us.

Adams: Part of it depends on what your end game is. If you’re looking to start a business and you don’t care if it’s large, and therefore you can grow it more slowly, there are probably more economical ways of getting capital than through venture capital people. They get a fair sum for what they do because they don’t just give you money–they give advice. They also put a stamp of approval on you when you go to investment banks to go public.

I prefer to have names on my venture capital list that the banks know and that have been successful. To me, it’s worth giving up more of the ownership. If it works, you’re going to make enough money that having two percent more isn’t going to make much of a difference.

Gould: I think you bring up an interesting point. Some companies that are not destined to be large companies can still be very lucrative. They are great to own for a few years and not share with venture capitalists. In fact, some companies that should be proprietorships mistakenly raise venture money, which leads to some unhappy conclusions. Venture capitalists invest expecting at some point a liquidity event and expecting a return. That can force a company to be in a position where they need to be acquired and that may not be the desire of the founders. Before taking on venture capital, you have to consider the obligations.
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What should you look for besides money from venture capitalists?
And is there a valuation, a value-added trade-off?
Taylor: We began by going through a list of venture capital firms and whittling it down to those who did technology and communications. Then we crossed off those who were involved with potential competitors and really got that down to a small list. We picked out two or three who we thought might be interested, but who we didn’t think we’d ultimately do business with, and sent them our first draft. We began to go through the process to see what they liked, what they didn’t like, what they’d be looking for. We took that information back into the secret lab and fine-tuned our presentation.

We were looking for people who didn’t need a lot of explanation about the phone business. The phone business, even when I started here at the business school, was monopolized, and here we were, little Focal, trying to compete against companies like AT&T and Ameritech. We felt that we would have an advantage with those who had played in competitive wireless or who had played in the early days of competitive long distance. We spent a lot of time building a really good business plan that would get their attention. There are venture capital guys in every business, and the key was finding the guys who appreciated and understood information technology. That was our first and foremost focus.

Gould: Clearly, you were looking for industry knowledge. How important was the venture capitalists’ ability to help bring in board members, management team members, and so on?

Taylor: It didn’t enter our thinking at first. But eventually we recognized that to get to the next step, we would need to add outside board members. The venture capital firms were very helpful in that because it was their reputation that added credibility to the business and opened doors on Wall Street. There’s a lot of downstream value that is impossible to put a dollar figure on. You can certainly do the friends and family route, but by and large you get all those downstream benefits from picking the right venture firms.

Kimball: The entrepreneur is at ground level, he’s in the jungle. The way we look at things, we’re up at 30,000 feet. We’re seeing hundreds of companies and we’re following lots of different scenarios, so if the entrepreneur looks like he’s heading for trouble, we can at least warn him and get him moving in another direction.

In one of my companies where I serve on the board, a software company, the sales line was going like gangbusters. The only problem was that we were having tremendous difficulty implementing the software. Our professional services arm was losing money. I have no skill set to fix that, but one of my investors is the individual who built the professional sales arm at PeopleSoft from zero to a business bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars a year. So I got him on the board. There were major problems, but at least I knew I could sit back and say it’s going to get fixed. I didn’t have to worry about it. And that’s what the entrepreneur felt as well. The value our firm added was this relationship that we could have from seeing the big picture.

Gould: I want to talk about Chicago for a second. We only invest up and down the Pacific time zone because we spend so much time with the companies we’re working with. I wondered if any of you have thoughts on the difference in time, space, and money for a company based here versus a company in California.

Taylor: The number one rule is it’s really expensive to travel. One of our firms is from Boston. Flying from Chicago to Boston on a full coach fare, when they call you up and say, “We’d like to see you tomorrow,” is about $1,200. But you can fly to Newark for $300, rent a car and drive five hours, and you’re there for a lot less. We ended up doing that every time we had to go to Boston. It didn’t dawn on one of the venture capitalists until he asked what time our flight was. It was noon when he asked and we said, “We have to leave now, our flight is at seven o’clock.” He said, “But Logan is five minutes away.” We said, “But Newark is five hours away.” The next day an offer letter showed up.

Getting to them was something we considered, and we looked with a greater concentration in Chicago simply because we were here. We weren’t thinking of whether or not we wanted them here–on the one hand, it would be great if they were in San Francisco, because they’d never stop in.

Kimball: We’d love to be doing business in Chicago. We conduct deals all across the country and have even figured a way to do deals in Canada. If a venture has to be very people- and time-intensive, it doesn’t make a lot of sense. But if we can find a relatively mature company in Chicago, we’d love to do it. For one, it’s a lot less competitive than the Bay Area, which translates into lower pricing. Two, there are lots of great people and talent in Chicago, and the ability to retain those people is probably greater than in Silicon Valley. There a new start-up might open down the street and become the hottest thing, and your people can walk out the door and take the next job with the best stock options. In that vein, if you bootstrap the company today and are thinking of getting venture capital, I would tell you two things. Make sure you’ve got a Big Five auditor and get top legal advisers who’ve done venture deals. That’s going to make you much more professional and much more able to deal with “vulture” capitalists.
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Speaking of “vulture” capitalists, let’s talk about what you should look out for with venture capitalists. How do you check out venture capitalists? How do you make sure they’re not “vulture” capitalists?

Gould: It’s important to make sure they understand your business, but it’s also important to check them out. There’s nothing wrong with asking for references. Or, if you want to be subtle, it’s easy to find out the boards they sit on. Call up their CEOs and say, “So tell me about them.”

Taylor: We called around, we looked at what boards they were on, and we talked to people. We tried to do the same amount of due diligence on them that they were doing on us. This is a marriage that goes beyond the IPO, if that’s the route you go. It’s going to be years before your relationship ends. I could see some of our venture capitalists being on our board forever.
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Are there definite dos and don’ts when approaching venture capitalists?
Gould: My most important criterion is still a well-thought-through target customer who has a compelling reason to buy. The absence of that is a pretty good killer. If the team has that customer, we’re willing to work with almost any other quirk.

Adams: I won’t invest unless it’s a pretty large market. I don’t really like niche markets, it’s too hard to stay viable. You might get started, but sooner or later someone will catch up with you who is much larger.

Kimball: Big and fast-growing markets make up for a lot of mistakes. In our portfolio, it’s absolutely clear that the most important thing is finding the big market. Because if it turns out that we can’t compete, we still make great money on those investments.
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When approaching venture capitalists, are references what really matters?

Gould: I love companies who have people we’ve backed before. Work your networks hard. It amazes me how many people you can come to know through people you already know. But one thing to be aware of: Don’t be referred by bozos. Make sure it’s someone I know and respect.

It’s very much a personal process, and it’s not a rational process. It’s not that if you don’t know the right people you can’t get funded. But if you think you don’t know the right people, you should get networking.

Resources

Gould suggested these sources to find firms that are investing in companies similar to yours.

National Venture Capital Association
1655 North Fort Myer Drive, Suite 850, Arlington, Virginia 22209
Phone: (703) 524-2549 Fax: (703) 524-3940

VentureOne Corporation
590 Folsom Street, San Francisco, California 94105
Phone: (415) 357-2100 / (800) 677-2082 Fax: (415) 357-2101

Additional resources
Venture Capital Resource Library

Links on the GSB’s Web Site
www.gsb.uchicago.edu/research/entrep/HelpfulLinks.htm
www.gsb.uchicago.edu/gsbcar/vencp_ind.shtml

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Secret of Her Success: More than one thousand people attended the 47th Annual Management Conference in June. Karen Katen, A.B. ’70, M.B.A. ’74, vice president of Pfizer Pharmaceuticals and president, U.S. Pfizer Pharmaceuticals Group, delivered the keynote address over lunch at the Sheraton Hotel Chicago, followed by thirteen educational sessions at Gleacher Center.

Chicago faculty members and industry experts–inclucding eighteen alumni–offered advice, debated the issues, and took attendees "back to the classroom" for educational updates. For a list of sessions and presenters, click here.

 

 

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